Tuesday, September 12, 2006

The Singles Ward

This originally started out as a comment to this post on Feminist Mormon Housewives, but then I kept writing and writing and figured I'd just post it here. I guess I have a lot to say about singles wards.

While I enjoyed my college years in the singles ward immensely, I actually think there are a few big flaws with singles wards (having been in them for almost 10 years now I've had some time to mull this over). Singles wards exist in the main for people who are 18-30 and are kind of a way station for people waiting to get married - or at least that's what it feels like. This engenders a few problems.

First, the rapid and sometimes very young marriages. Now I have nothing against either of those ideas really, since my mom was 19 when my parents got married, they were married 7 months after they met, and they're still together almost 31 years later (and they weren't even Mormon!). However, since the divorce rate in the church is pretty much the same as outside the church, I think those very fast and very young marriages can lead to problems, particularly if the marriages happen for the wrong reasons - such as being driven by hormones or by peer/leader pressure.

Even though this pressure to get married ASAP may be more concentrated in the singles ward, I really think it has more to do with church culture as a whole than simply with the singles wards. When you're surrounded by other singles, the issue is amplified, but single friends of mine who go to a family ward and aren't married still don't really feel like they have a place within this church where the family is so central. In fact, I found myself getting frustrated in my singles ward Relief Society a few weeks ago when the lesson was basically about being a good spouse. The teacher suggested we think about the list of qualities we want in our future husband. Um, I haven't really done the whole list thing since I was 20 or so, realizing that the odds are I'm not going to measure up to a list of perfect qualities, and neither is the man I fall in love with. Sure, there are a few things I would like, but drawing up a non-negotiable list just sets us all up for disappointment (This was also a favorite in-class activity of several of my Young Women's leaders).

The second flaw is that most singles wards kick people out once they turn 31. I am almost 30 and have many friends who have been booted from the singles wards. They suddenly find themselves removed from their friends, often surrounded by young couples with babies, and with a virtual big red "Failure" stamped on their heads. Some people I know never make it past this stage - they may stop going to church altogether. Others pop back into the singles ward every other week because they don't really know what to do with themselves and don't feel comfortable reaching out to the women in the Relief Societies who they don't seem to have a lot in common with on the surface. At least in the singles ward you have the basic underlying fact of being single to unite you. You understand each others struggles in this family-oriented church.

One thing I think the church as an entity could do to alleviate some of this alienation is by really working to have a place for these older (ie 31+) singles. When I lived in Chicago I went to a family ward for the first year I was there. A singles branch existed, but it was on the southside and it was more convenient to go to the family ward, especially for people dependent on public transportation. The YSA organization as a whole was thriving and we had inter- and intra-stake activities often. They had stake reps and the YSA organization was treated almost like another auxiliary. I hear vague reports of Single Adult reps, but I never get the impression that they flourish like they should considering there are so many singles in the church over 31.

However, if you don’t kick people out at 31 you run into the situation like the one in Cambridge, MA – no one gets kicked out of the singles ward, no matter how old. Many people go to the family wards on their own volition as they progress through their 30’s and into their 40’s, but there is no rule that they must leave. On the surface, this doesn't seem like much of a problem. I met some amazing 31+ people in those wards.

There were times, though, when I personally was just tired of the whole singles ward “thing.” The games, sometimes feeling too old for the silly activities and getting-to-know-you parties, wondering if a boy would ever notice me, wanting to be more involved with something that felt real rather than being the 37th person on the Activities or Welcoming Committees because without Primary, Young Women’s, Young Men’s, etc., you quickly run out of callings for a ward of over 150 people. I talked to other friends about this and voiced a desire to go to a family ward (at 27! Shocking!). However, the only problem is that if I went to a family ward, I wouldn’t be able to see my friends every week and would lose a lot of my social connections. Because no one is ever kicked out of the singles wards, very, very few singles actually go to the family wards. My friends and I could always try to make the extra effort, but when Sunday night dinners are arranged in Relief Society or at Munch and Mingle, and when during the week we’re all so busy with school and work and life, church is often the only feasible time to connect.

I don’t really have an answer, except for an idea to completely revamp the system. Frankly, I think singles wards should only be for people 24 and under – basically college age, if you put in time for a mission. I really enjoyed the singles ward when I was in college. It was like a training ground. I was in the Relief Society presidency, where we didn’t have any huge issues, but just enough for us to get our feet wet and show us how this whole church bureaucracy thing worked. To me, it seems like singles wards should be just that: training for the future. You learn how things work, and then you move on, without the stigma of being 31 and not married {GASP!}. And you have the ability to move on without the fear of losing your entire social life if you do because there are a bunch of singles in the family ward too, or of being thought of as the weirdo who left the singles ward before she turned 31.

In addition to restricting singles wards to just that college-age group, there needs to be more of an organization for singles. Each ward would have reps, maybe a couple older and a couple younger, who would meet with other ward reps, and plan activities, both at the ward and stake level. As far as I know, some of these things are already in place, but they're not being emphasized. Not that the church needs to go as far as saying, "Hooray! You're single!" But how about a little less emphasis on being married instantly right this second as soon as you start dating, and a little more emphasis on developing yourself and building friendships and camaraderie in the meantime, without the need to segregate us off into singles wards?

For example, in Chicago the ward singles met for FHE and other smaller activites, plus we had a singles Sunday School class. We'd do Break-the-Fast every month with the other singles in the stake. It’s very easy now to blow off some of the bigger activities if you’re in a singles ward because you already have a large social scene. When I was in Chicago, you could bet that the majority of the active singles in the stake showed up for those large activities because those were THE ONLY big activities and gave all of us a chance to branch outside our ward group.

If you divided all the singles in, for example, the Longfellow Park wards in Cambridge among the family wards in the stake, not only would each family ward have a fairly decent-sized singles group, but there would be a huge influx of dynamic energy into those wards. I had a friend in Chicago who worked in the Young Women’s group in the family ward and loved it. As a fun, successful, intelligent, and well-educated single woman she was an amazing role model to those girls, many of whom came from inner-city Chicago. She was a different (not better, just different) voice for the girls to hear from every Sunday.

Personally and selfishly, I love a lot of aspects of the singles ward, particularly my amazing experiences in Relief Society. And having a quiet chapel to reflect in during the Sacrament is lovely. Being surrounded by women like me in Relief Society and listening to and relating to their thoughts and experiences has taught me so much. However, I know I could learn a lot from people who aren’t just like me.

In Chicago, my visiting teaching companion was also a single woman, but she was 15 years older than me. We taught a Puerto Rican woman with two little boys who was going through a divorce and suffered from sickle-cell anemia. We taught a very wise and hilarious African-American woman living in a poor neighborhood with a 15 year-old son who adored her. We taught an upwardly mobile 27 year-old new mother whose husband worked for an investment firm in downtown Chicago. Every single one of those women were so different from each other and from me. But we all shared with each other and learned and grew from those interactions. We are all sisters in the Gospel, after all. Not that Chicago was some utopia for singles like I may be painting it as. I did eventually go to the singles branch, but I thought the family wards did a pretty good job with the small number of singles they had and made us feel not quite so left out in the midst of the family ward.

I don't see the church doing a major overhaul of the singles program anytime soon, but I think there need to be changes. The numbers of older singles keep increasing, and the current system seems to be resulting in alienation and disenchantment with the church as an entity (not the Gospel, but the church). Frankly, if my choices are going to be A) a lesson on the traits I want in my future husband, or B) a lesson on why the teacher's husband is great and how they communicate and love one another, seconded and thirded by the other women in the room, I think I'll pick option C) neither, and try to find a church where I don't often feel like my worth is wrapped up in my marital status.

12 comments:

Suzie2 said...

Excellent post, Kelly! I have to agree with most of what you wrote -especially the idea of keeping singles wards as perhaps a college thing, and stop viewing 31+ as failures...I too think there should be changes with the singles wards, because whatever purpose they are meant to serve, well, it's not working out very well in my opinion.

N.F. said...

Do you mean that by choosing option C you are leaving the church?

When I was in Utah last year, I was really impressed by a ward there. It was for 31-45 year olds and I thought that was the BEST IDEA EVER!

I would LOVE for my stake to do something like that--but I have to face the fact that I don't live in Utah anymore and the numbers here won't support that....

I'm 34 in my home ward--I guess since I've always gone to church by myself--I've been spared the hard feelings of "sitting alone".

Kelly said...

Suzie2, couldn't agree more. It's not working!

Noelle, I'm not saying that I personally am leaving the church, but I know others have or have contemplated it because while they feel fulfilled in other aspects of their lives they may feel judged and out of place at church. Which is sad, since isn't church where we're supposed to feel the most peace? A ward for older singles sounds like a good solution too, but I personally would like to see more integration rather than segregation. That's just my preference.

N.F. said...

I agree 100000% that integration should be top on the list rather than segregation.

But then there are those people who wouldn't be happy with that--they would want to be with others in their situation (I do kind of feel that way at times).

This is me playing devil's advocate here (and for you and Suzie2 also), but WHOM do you guys think are the ones that view US as failures? It's all an individual thing of course, but I couldn't name one person who I THINK VIEWS ME as a failure (except maybe my mom------just kidding). Never in 1 million years would I have the thought process that "so and so" thinks less of me (or that I'm a failure) since I'm not married yet.

I must admit that I do know people (in my Stake Singles group) who feel that way, and it's SUCH a foreign concept to me! I've tried to be supportive to him, but he's just not having it. He feels the way he feels PERIOD. He's even come to MY WARD because he says his is "unfriendly" and that no one talks to him.

I asked him if HE went to talk to anyone else after Sacrament? And, he doesn't. I guess he expects/thinks people should come up to him, and he feels dejected and at a loss when people don't. That's so odd to me, because if people don't say anything to me, it's no skin off my back. And, if I'm feeling weird or something, I'll just go up to so and so MYSELF and talk to them. It's really a very simple equation.

But, again to me, it's a very simple equation. I completely understand that others feel differently. I guess it seems so matter of fact to me b/c I've lived "in the world". After I was baptized at 15, a few years after that I stopped going to church. I've been back active since around 1997. Having lived through what I did, and gone through what I did, WITHOUT THE GOSPEL, you couldn't pay me to leave. You couldn't convince me of ANYTHING else making me upset/leave the church.

WOW. I'm done now. Sorry this turned out so dang long--and I'm down off my soap box now. :)

Anonymous said...

I made the leap from singles ward to family ward 4 years ago when I was 24. I was sick of the fact that church wasn't just about church, and I had the perfect built-in excuse whenever anyone gave me a hard time about it: the ward meets in the morning, which conflicts with my singing at S. Stephen's. (Then if people give me a hard time about singing in an Episcopal church, that's a definite conversation stopper.)

At any rate, I really love my ward. I've made friends with a lot of the women, and they don't make a big deal of the fact that I'm single. I love that we get a much wider variety of perspectives in Relief Society and have a wider range of life experiences.

That said, there are times in which I do feel somewhat alone. Last month's marriage and family lesson was a particularly notable example in which I had to run out of the room so that I could cry in private and not in front of everyone. Had there been a core group of singles in the room, the entire tenor of the discussion may have been more inclusive. Or perhaps there was no way to redeem that particular lesson. At any rate, it would be nice if there were other people more like me in the ward. If we took people in the singles ward that lived in my ward boundaries, we'd have a pretty sizeable group, and I wouldn't be so alone. But most of the time I really do love my ward.

But given the choice, I'd much rather stay where I am than go back to a singles ward.

-Deborah

Mrs Andy said...

Ok, I 1000% agree with you on everything! Integration, integration! If singles were in the mix at a family ward, maybe people would not treat them as enigmas, but as the great people they are.

I was 30 when I got married, and yes I was made to feel like total freak though most of my 20s. I hated, HATED the Stake Confrence where the Stake President basically gave us a missionary zone confrence on dating. I swear the talk he gave was right out of the Missionary Guide, but he changed "investigator" to "potential spouse/date". Could I just hurl?? Needless to say, the scriptures didn't have any of his talk in them....mmmm...so I ignored that one.

What I had to do was decide that I didn't care about what my bishop, or anyone else, thought about my dating status, and I also didn't care about telling people when they were out of line. The bishop even asked me once if I was a lesbian and if I had anything to confess to him because I refused to let his wife set me up on dates. I just didn't like her choices, because like you I'd been in the singeles ward/scene for 10 years and my feeling was, that I'd been going to church with a lot of the same guys for that long and if it hadn't clicked by now, it wasn't going to click.

So what's my point? Don't feel less than a person if you're not married, becasuse no matter what your status in life you will never have enough, or be "right" for some people. It doesn't end when you get married, because once you're married you are expected to start popping out babies. And if you don't you must be some sort of creepy bra-burning feminist...um ya right.

All I can say is that I learned more by being a single in the Church than I could have, had I gotten married young. So I think you're ok... :)

Eddie said...

With the recent restructuring of singles wards/branches in our area (I live close to Kelly) some of the bigger YSA wards were made smaller. Now each stake has a YSA branch/ward of its own, and I know some of the people in those wards feel somewhat isolated.

From my perspective, I like having the singles around the family wards. They (A) are very energetic and dynamic, as you mentioned (B) have lots of time and free evenings to take assignments (sorry, can't resist, I'm in a leadership position) (C) tend to be entertaining and (D) we love getting together with them for dinner, etc.

Anonymous said...

Fabulous post! I'm a lurker - sorry for not commenting earlier, but this post was too good to pass up. I have seen people who left singles wards for the right reasons (they just wanted to get back to the gospel and out of the social scene) and I respected that, but I could never have done it myself. As irritating as the singles ward could be - especially after breaking up with a guy who was in it (I eneded up with a rule against Ward Incest) - I needed to connect with people my own age. Getting married and joining a family ward was pretty traumatic, actually. Throwing people out at 31 is a terrrrible idea, but options, like noelle mentioned, would be ohhh so loverly.

I hated HATED the RS lessons on marriage. They were always horried and I left every single one. I don't feel bad about that, I just knew I couldn't sit there and listen to sad people bemoaning and hoping rather than building up their own testimonies. I had to teach one once - so I made the subject about preparing to be the kind of Wife you want to be. Hey, if you don't get married, at least you are working at being a better person, regardless. I hope that lesson was received well...
Anywho, love your blog! Thanks for the insightful post!

Kelly said...

Noelle, no one in particular has pointed at me and yelled, "Failure!" I think it's an overarching, more subtle feeling. Some of it is personally applied by us as individuals who feel like we should be married, but I do feel like there is a feeling of not knowing quite what to do with all of us older singles in the church. They can ignore us or tacitly acknowledge us with a token comment in a lesson or something, but I think either of those methods just point out how we're different from the marrieds.

Deborah, first, um, hi. Someone else I know in real life reading the blog. :) Second, thanks for sharing your experience. I think that's one of the things that does bother me about the singles ward: sometimes the whole "church" aspect of church is lost.

Elizabeth, it doesn't help when I know that one of the bishops has told us explicitly NOT to date non-members. Uh, ok. Mormon nunhood it is!

Eden, it's funny because I never saw myself as getting married young, but even back in college I could feel myself falling prey to the "marriage right now" mentality. I had to step back and remind myself that I personally had never seen myself getting married before I was 26 so what was I worried about? I knew I wanted to accomplish things and become comfortable with myself before I had someone else in the mix.

Eddie, yeah it's weird here because the 2 biggest singles wards don't even meet in the same building. Not a lot of opportunity for intermingling so you're sort of relegated to socializing with the singles who happen to live around you. What if your soulmate lives in Crystal City and not in Alexandria? Too bad.

Reva, thanks for the compliments. I think that's a good take on the marriage lessons: working on making yourself a better person, whether you become a wife or not.

Anonymous said...

I need to go back and read this more carefully, you've said a lot that sounds like things I've thought!

I was surprised by how much I loved being in a family ward this last year. I didn't feel out of place or stamped as a "Single" there, and I got to work with and make friends with people of all ages rather than playing the singles ward game. Even though I know singles wards have their advantages, I was sorry to leave.

Anonymous said...

I'd love some information. I have had a very mixed experience in "singles wards". I have quite enjoyed "student" wards--those connected to actual colleges. Although not all students or those who attend may be students, it seemed like we were all connected and/or united. I attended a "singles" ward once I graduated from college (the first time)which was an absolutely horrible experience. It was not, per sa, a meat market. Rather, it was an experience in frustration beyond frustration. I came home every Sunday either crying or screaming in anger. I became SO tired of the complacency in spiritual lives, the obsession with "things", and the absolute lack of willingness to serve. I was also tired of being treated like someone incredibly unattractive by the young men. I'm not tall and perfectly skinny like some in the ward (the girls who got married)--and I wear my emotions on my sleeve--so attracting a young man is hard enough. But dealing with the obsessions of physical attractiveness from both sides of the playing field, as well as all of the other "obsessions" was crucifixion. After 4 years--when I finally felt spiritually that I could leave (I tried to leave at 2--but was in essence told that it wasn't the right time), I got permission from my family ward bishop to "become inactive" and attend a ward for a year in my sister's stake. It was quite dramatic--mostly--the difference. Most of those in this ward lived on their own or with roommates--and they were pleasant to be around, loved to serve--and although I may not have dated, the young men mostly treated me kindly. But, I finally decided to attend my family's ward once I decided to go back to school. I went for 2 years, and mostly enjoyed it (although, there were still times of stress because of the lack of understanding from some married people, especially those who subscribe WAY too much to Mormon culture ideals). I was actually surprised by how much I enjoyed it. I felt I actually grew spiritually--which I hadn't felt for quite a while. Once I received my master's degree, I moved out of the "mountain west", and am now attending a student ward. The young men are quite kind--and the ward is wonderfully supportive and great. But, this ward does something that I have never seen in another ward. It allows married couples to stay in the ward until they have an 18 month old (and sometimes, they stay a little longer). I've been quite impressed so far--and think that this might be the answer. It provides the appropriate "reinforcement" for marriage--without major pressure--it allows the couples to stay connected with young adults their age who can give them the perspective of both the single and married ward. It is hard sometimes for baby-hunger--but family wards do this too. I think this may be the answer--and wish they did this in Utah. But, here are my current frustrations:

Now that I'm seeking even higher education, which is totally what I feel the Lord wants me to do, I was surprised by what was said in the Priesthood General Conference. I know the motivation was to prompt the young men to get their education rather than "wondering" as I've observed some young men have--but so often people interpret what is said so differently than how they were meant. I saw this happened so often, especially in Utah. I guess I feel like, it's been hard enough throughout my entire life to get a date in the first place--and now that I have higher education than many young men--it's only going to get harder because SOME will use what was said as a reason to not date a girl with much higher education levels than themselves. What's hard too, is that I've known MANY couples who are "equally yoked", yet don't have the same level of education. I mean, my father dropped out of college to support a family and building fund--while my mother had a degree. It was this way for almost 36 years of their marriage. So, I'm a little frustrated/confused.

Next, in order to go to school,which is again, what I truly feel the Lord wants me to do, I have signed away my life to get the financial support. So, when I ever get married and actually get to have kids (which, by the way--I've ALWAYS wanted to be a stay at home mom--more than anything else--it's just NEVER happened)I will have to work at least part time, or pay back a HUGE loan. There is truly no way to get a Ph.D. without signing life away. And, if I were to quit half-way through, I would still have to pay back the loan, yet not be able to get a well enough paying job. Anyway--I know the church greatly discourages mother working (although in this day and age I've known very few women who NEVER have to work during some point of their family's life), and that it also strongly discourages single women from adopting children. But, I'm thinking about it if I stay single (or if I get married). I'm specially trained to work with children with disabilities--and would like to adopt either way--and I kind of feel like that since I'm stuck either way doing something the church discourages--that if I ever feel it would be ok for me to adopt single--I may just go ahead and do it. Of course, it would only be if I feel that it is the right thing to do. That's how I live my life. But, I'd love to hear from others on their observations about these frustrations I've discussed.
Thanks--and great blog!

Anonymous said...

Well, our area is having success developing a "midsingles" program where all 30-something singles (Ages 31-40) attend the same family ward together. Initially that family ward was the smallest ward in the stake. Now with 120 midsingles in the ward, we are the largest. Lessons and discussions cater to both those that are married or those that are single, and we're not treated as failures either.

Other stakes here in SoCal are developing similar midsingles programs. With 3 YSA Wards feeding in our mixed family/midsingles ward, everyone knows when you turn 31, what ward you attend. We still do things with the YSAs, so the transition is a lot smoother that way.

Our set-up is also good for midsingle parents since we have a full Primary program as well in our ward.

I don't why other areas in the Church are not following suit.

Matt
Huntington Beach, CA